Mezzoforce Ice filter

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Mezzoforce Ice filter

Postby Dorothy Gibbs » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:33 pm

Hi There,
I just downloaded this filter form the plugin site this morning. I installed it and it's opening screen comes up, with a preview when I try to use it. However If I press Ok to accept it gives a memepry exception message and closes.
Anyone know what to do about it?
Thanks
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Mezzoforce Ice filter

Postby Dorothy Gibbs » Thu Apr 01, 2004 1:35 pm

Hi Again... of course that funny word in my message should have said memory exception. Sorry
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Postby HaraldHeim » Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:21 pm

What graphics application are you using? And which version?

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Postby Dorothy Gibbs » Thu Apr 01, 2004 10:07 pm

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Postby malaz » Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:51 am

hi all,

thanx to all Mezzoforce users

this is not a Mezzoforce filter problem, for ALL FILTERS created with filtermeister too and for many other photoshop compatible filters.
Problem have a PSP8 developers, because PSP 8 has much stricter memory limits than PSP 7 or Photoshop..., and many Photoshop compatible plugins CANT be used with large size of pictures.

I can recommend for mezzoforce and for other filters - use a selection before applying filter.

A.Malas - MezzoForce algorithm developer

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Postby Dorothy Gibbs » Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:18 pm

Hi There,

Sorry, I should have written here as well when I wrote to the Mezzoforce site to say that Malaz's remedy works fine. I was trying to use the filter on a picture that was too large for PSP8's memory limits. Got a wonderful effect when I used a selection instead. Try it Folks!
Thanks Malaz.
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Postby HaraldHeim » Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:26 am

The PSP8 problem only appears for plugins created with FilterMeister, if the plugin developer didn't use the ForEveryTile handler (which is the advanced way to do it) to process the image. Anyway, this problem will be fixed with the next Filter Meister release, so recompiling the Mezzoforce plugin then will fix the problem. Or Malaz changes his plugin to use the ForEveryTile handler, then there will be no problem with PSP8.

I never tried using a selection, but if you say that that solved the problem, it is fine.

PSP uses Window's virtual memory feature, so it theoretically can process images that are as large as 50% of your free hard drive space. But of course you will have to wait ages and if you aren't using Windows 2000 or XP, it is very likely that Windows will crash if too much virtual memory is needed. Photoshop on the other hand offers its own virtual memory system which is optimized for processing images that don't fit into memory and works very quickly.

It depends on the plugin if it uses Window's or Photoshop's virtual memory. Photoshop's memory system means additional work for the plugin developer, so a lot of plugins don't make use of it. Unfortunately Photoshop has the bad habit to quit a plugin that tries to use too much of Window's virtual memory.

As a consequence you will be able to slowly process some large images in PSP with certain plugins whereas you can't do that in Photoshop. But if you use a plugin that makes use of Photoshop's virtual memory, you can process very large images in a fraction of the time that PSP would need.

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Mezzoforce Ice filter

Postby Dorothy Gibbs » Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:35 am

Hi Harald,
Many thanks for that explanation. I understand the reason for the problem better now.
I will await the updated version of that filter.
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Postby malaz as A.Malas » Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:36 pm

Hi all,

sometimes designers have a problems because dont know some tricks about page file.

First that need to do before work with large images, this is set a correct page file. If your phisical memory is 254MB page file need be fixed about 600MB (fixed i mean minimal 600mb and maximum 600mb) not auto page file. And if you have several hard disks i recomend make page files on all disks (for NT platform OS). Largest page files than x2-2.5 dont have effect...
This is first that Im doing after reinstalling my OS.
And OS (PC) that good for designers is XP at this time...

Mezzoforce created about 2 years ago only for 2manekenai company (for winxp).
But really for others "born" only march 9 2004, then company owner decided publish plugin on the net...

About every tile that Harald write above. This needed not only for fix memory problems, but for presets function too (v.103 use it).
v.103 is maked now, but i need get several tests and update will be published. If you wanna test it, let me know malaz@kompai.lt, or wait a little...

If you wanna be informed about Mezzoforce upgrades, then you need subscribe to newsletter on mezzoforce site.

A.Malas

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Postby HaraldHeim » Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:46 am


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Postby malas » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:27 am

new version mf103:

http://www.kompai.lt/2m/do.asp?r=mezzoforce103.zip

best regards: malas

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Postby Malas » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:06 pm

Official Mezzoforce plugin site:

http://www.mezzoforce.com

regards: A.Malas

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PSP probs resolved?

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Postby RubyB » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:00 am

Thanks ever so, Harold. I've been playing with it a bit and it works most of the time, but after I used Akvis Chameleon - which works about half the time.. the other half I'm getting 'unhandled exception during processing image' errors - I'm now getting 'memory access violation' errors. The Chameleon error freezes up the program and I have to C-A-D to shut it down. Do these 2 plug-ins not get along?


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Postby HaraldHeim » Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:04 pm

I guess Chameleon made PSP unstable. It is best if you restart PSP after that. Plugins usually don't interfer with each other, but they have an effect on the graphics application, which can cause trouble with other plugins.


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